Beyond Extraordinary Ep 17: Dr. Michael Heiser

In a world where Christians are often accused of anti-intellectualism and blind faith, it is very refreshing to encounter scholars like Dr. Michael Heiser, who prove that Christianity and academia need not be mutually exclusive.  Michael has earned a PhD in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages, an M.A. in Ancient History, as well as an M.A. in Hebrew Studies.

Dr. Michael Heiser Interview

It was a pleasure talking to Dr. Heiser.  He graciously agreed to discuss a wide variety of topics with me, and I know that you are going to enjoy this discussion.  We cover the supernatural, Creation, the nature of the Universe, and much more.

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“The Bible is filled with passages that are so baffling we tend to ignore them. Yet the passages that seem weird might be the most important. This collection of essays from Bible Study Magazine will shock you, intrigue you, and completely change the way you view the Bible. Dr. Michael S. Heiser visits some of the Bible’s most obscure passages, unveiling their ancient context to help you interpret them today. Read this book, and you’ll never be bored by the Bible again.”

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The music transition between the intro and the interview is Hurrian Hymn Number 6…. The world’s oldest known melody from 1400 BC. I thought it would be appropriate :)  You can hear the whole thing HERE.

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Beyond Extraordinary Ep 17: Dr. Michael Heiser




  1. DT

    The cultural/historical, textual, linguistic, and morphological evidence all indicate the sons of God are supernatural beings, as does common sense. I can certainly see where one of the most respected Hebrew scholars in the world could get tripped up ;).

    Thank goodness for Stan coming to tell us it’s all a lie.

  2. I’m in the process of listening to your Dr. Heiser interview, and wanted to comment on your opposition to the Hebrew roots movement, which I remember you basically lambasting in an earlier episode!

    The fact that every major and minor holiday of current times is rooted in paganism is clear. I’m even learning that groundhog day (Ken Johnson writes of this in Pagan Religions), Valentine’s Day, May Day, on and on, all have pagan roots. Now combine that with what we are learning of Genesis 6, and the growing awarenes, such as Tom Horn espouses and shows, that the ancient gods are returning, and I begin to wonder why I would participate in any festival and celebration that, in its roots and foundations, honoured beings who defy the living God? And Dr. Heiser states that if we have no knowledge of these things, and no feeling towards them, then it’s ok. Paul uses a similar example in meat offered to idols. If one sees no sin, then it’s ok, but if it offends, don’t eat it. And I would agree. So I don’t judge my fellow believers who choose to celebrate Christ on these days. I know their heart, and I have no problem with it.

    As for our house, the growing awareness of the gods, the growing cultural fascination with the gods, the impending ripping of the portal door to allow these abominations to walk the earth once again is pushing us to a place where celebrating Christ’s birthday on the same day as Saturnalia’s, to celebrate His resurrection on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox (a pagan high holy day) makes no sense.

    Father gave us wonderful holidays to celebrate, and since Jesus’ death and resurrection occurred on Passover, it seems a lot more logical to me to remember Him on Passover as well. In fact, as we get into the feasts of the Lord, we find that the spring feasts are all prophetic of His first coming, and the fall feasts all prophetic of His second coming. He fulfilled every single minute part of each spring feast. (The Passover connections are absolutely amazing.) It then behooves us to study the fall feasts to be ready, to have “dress rehearsals”, for His second glorious coming. He will fulfill each minutia of the fall feasts as well. Hallelujah!

    In Zachariah 14 we find that during the Millennium we will observe the feast of tabernacles, which also signifies our marriage to Him. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb is the fulfillment of a feast day.

    His coming at the last trump is the fulfillment of the Feast of Trumpets.

    I don’t observe the feasts and the Sabbath (The Sabbath is part of the 10 commandments, and it is no different than Thou shalt not steal. It’s equal.) because of legalism or some blind return to the law, which Christ fulfilled. I do so because I find evidence in scripture to do so, because I am participating in a “dress rehearsal” for the real thing, and because they draw me closer to Jesus, who is the centre and fulfillment of each. And to be honest, I’m still figuring out how to celebrate them! And I don’t have any condemnation because I’m missing or skipping steps. It’s a huge growth curve.

    People in the “Hebrew Roots Movement” are not all cultish legalists looking for the next wave. Michale definitely got it right, at least for me, when he talked about churches lacking content, and Christians being bored there. I truly believe people moving in this direction are simply following the leading of the Holy Spirit, away from mainstream religion, and finding in God’s Word a way to make the home the centre of faith instead of a building. My faith rests in the blood, atonement and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The fact that the feasts point me in that direction excites me to no end.

    I learned most of this from Mark Biltz at, among other places.

    Grace and courage,

    • Steve Shoemaker

      Really? Those young earthers are just so yesterday? If you evolve in your thinking I would hope that it would be more in line with scripture, not less. Don’t be afraid of the Bible because it seems to fly in the face of the world’s standards. I took me very little time to get to the bottom of Dr. Heiser’s objection to Job 37:18. What surprises me the most is that you simply have to apply the skills that he’s trained for. Here’s just on link that should remove scripture and it’s writers from the primitive cosmology camp. If they’re God’s words, they’re accurate. The world is usually wrong.

    • natalina

      Darren, Dr. Heiser has responded to this on his blog:

    • vinniea

      Darren, are you suggesting Dr. Heiser said during the interview “I truly believe people moving in this direction are simply following the leading of the Holy Spirit…instead of a building” Or is is one of your own thought on the issue

      • No, I’m not suggesting he said that. That is my own opinion, and I think the language makes this clear.

        And let me say, as I replied to Dr. Heiser’s post (thank you Natalina), I wish I would have caught my misspelling of his name before posting. Sorry Dr. Heiser!

        • vincent

          schtoltzie, thank you for your reply. I noted on Dr. Heiser’s site suggesting that you probably weren’t actually quoting him.

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