Defending Christ the King – Refuting the Pagan Roots Lie

This article began as something quite different than what it has become.  The original title of the post was to be “Defending Christmas”.  As I pondered the content that needed to be addressed, I felt pressed by the Holy Spirit to change the name to “Defending Christ the King.”  And it is my heart’s desire to do so, as He has been so faithful to defend me.

In my previous existence as one who reveled in a state of rebellion, I was engaged in a war.  I knew it was a war. I had declared it as such.  I thought it was a war against ignorance and mythology and pitifully blind faith.  As a new creation, I can look back now and recognize it for what it truly was.  A war against truth. The Truth. The only thing that is true in a world of deception.  I was in a battle against the very existence of Jesus Christ.  I bought, believed, promoted and proclaimed the antichrist gospel.  I was unwittingly peddling lies and had become an evangelist in favor of a fallen world.

Accepting Jesus was an unexpected and amazing turn of events!  Almost instantly, I recognized my unique position as one who’d gone from declaring a lie to defending THE truth.  I began to unravel the errors of my previous arguments against His existence, and I wondered what spirit had overcome me, a reasonably intelligent woman,  to convince me that such provably incorrect information was true.

In the past year, and particularly in the past several months, I’ve become increasingly alarmed as I see so many of the arguments from my former self surfacing inside Christian circles, AGAINST Christians, FROM Christians.  My heart broke over and over as I watched the same spirit from which I’d been delivered, now influencing fellow believers; lies being peddled in the guise of Biblical truth.  The obvious elitism and sense of superiority displayed by those who were now attacking Christianity from within were startlingly similar to that which I’d experienced years ago.

Never has this spirit been more prevalent than it is this year during the Christmas season.  The shameless promotion of the pagan roots lie has found its way into the fold and is corrupting hearts and minds at an alarming rate.

Defending Christmas

The Pagan Roots Lie

One of the most prevalent memes used by atheists against Christians is the concept that Jesus is a mythical character based upon previous pagan “dying and rising” messiah archetypes.  Most of these claims have been debunked ad nauseum, but they continue to rear their ugly heads. If you aren’t familiar with said debunking, CLICK HERE – or you can listen to my interview with Cris Putnam wherein he tackles the subject skillfully.

The thrust of the argument is that Jesus is a copycat savior based on either a singular pagan deity or an amalgam of pagan deities, depending upon with whom you speak.  “Debunkers” like to claim that the concept of the Trinity is based upon pagan myth, that all Christian traditions are based upon pagan myth, and that essentially all of Christendom is one big fat pile of baloney.

It would behoove the dogmatic atheist to use all ammo in his arsenal to attempt to show that Jesus didn’t exist. You can’t really blame him for trying.  For him, it is a matter of self preservation, for if Jesus is real, then he’s in big trouble.  But what do you do when people who claim to believe in Jesus use the exact same methodology against orthodox Christians?

That’s right.  Self proclaimed believers are using Christianity against Christians by claiming that Christianity as we know it is a false construct comprised largely of pagan influences.

The purpose of this post is not to tackle all issues related to the pagan roots lie.  There are far too many claims floating around, and there are apologists and researchers far more skilled than I who are tackling these issues in a scholarly manner on a regular basis. I will include resources at the bottom of this post.  For now, I want to stick to a couple of specific areas.  I believe very strongly that the spirit of deception that grips non-believers and causes them to throw reason out the window in favor of the pagan roots lie, is the same spirit that has managed to plant a seed of confusion in a small but stubborn segment of professed believers.

First, let’s just cover one basic issue.  It really does not matter what any pagan reveler of antiquity practiced or preached or wrote or worshiped.  If we believe what the Bible teaches, we know that before a single pagan walked the Earth, God Almighty brought all things into existence.  There is literally nothing that a pagan touched that wasn’t touched by God first.  Thus, for a Christian to argue that any pagan philosophy predated what we know to be true about the nature of God is illogical.  God came first.  Upon this we can all agree.  However, in this very same logic train, we can begin to understand why those who would promote the pagan roots lie would begin their attack with the Trinity. [1] Redefining God’s triune nature is necessary in order to make any of their arguments stick.  And this is what we’re going to continue to see -  further redefining, retooling, rejecting and retracting portions of scripture in an effort to fit their pet theories into a manageable box.

O Holy Night

When I was a lost and confused girl, not knowing what I believed, there was one time of year when I was open to hearing about the Gospel.  That time was Christmas.  I’d show up for church and would hear about His miraculous coming.  I’d hear amazing hymns that filled me with reverence for this Jesus – born in Bethlehem to be the savior of the whole world.  My rebellion was deeply entrenched, but the seeds planted during those special moments when I was told “Fall on your Knees!”, have clearly come to fruition.  I have accepted His call and He is the Lord of my life.

Imagine my confusion and sadness when, years later, as a Christian, I saw a group of believers who scorned and mocked that uniquely powerful time.  I’d ask myself, “What is this all about?”

Let’s clear a few things up.  I do not proclaim that Jesus was born on December 25th.  I do not deny that SOME seasonal traditions common to our culture may have vague similarities to pagan pactices.  I do not engage in tree worship.  I do not honor a nebulous sun god.  I do not recognize Nimrod as my eternal king.  I do not burn a yule log.  I do not believe in Santa Claus. I am afraid of elves.

The claims of those who believe Christmas to be a dirty dirty pagan festival full of perverted revelry include, but are not limited to:

1.  Christmas trees are downright evil.  They alternatively represent Nimrod worship, goddess Ashtoreth worship, or just a good old fashioned phallic symbol.  They claim that Jeremiah 10 explicitly lays out why Christmas trees are evil.  These claims are easily refuted HERE and HERE.

2.  Jesus was not born on December 25, but a WHOLE bunch of other gods were.

3.  Catholics usurped the pagan traditions in an effort to make Christianity more palatable to heathens, thus anyone who celebrates Christmas is a heathen by proxy. Or a Catholic.

4.  The Jesus worshiped by orthodox Christians is not the same Jesus as worshiped by the true believers who embrace a Herbrew Roots Movement.  (It is also common for HRM folks to deny that they are HRM, knowing that it is rather bad PR to publicly associate with HRM)

It is important to note that much of what these anti-Christmas crusaders would have you believe about the pagan roots of Christmas extends into their philosophy about the pagan roots of Christianity as a whole.  For those who do not worship by adhering to OT law, they will say that you are not doing it right, that you’re essentially an accidental pagan/Catholic, and that you may even end up shining their shoes in Heaven… if you make it there at all.

But where does all of this come from? Surely if all that they say is true, it should give anyone who fears the Lord pause, right?

Much of what is spread around in atheist circles (and now in many “christian” circles) about the pagan roots lie originates from a book called The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop.  His research has been expounded upon by various “researchers”, perhaps most prominently a woman who refers to herself as D.M. Murdock or Acharya S.  It is unclear what her actual name is, but it is abundantly clear that she is an anti-Christian propagandist and a shameless New Ager, and many of the current claims about the pagan roots of Christianity find their way back to her research.  And no doubt she relies heavily on the claims of Hislop.

Hislop’s Two Babylons was written in 1853 and was published in 1919.  He was a Prebyterian theologian and his works have been embraced by conspiracy theorists on the fringes of Christianity ever since.  According to one reviewer:

It has been recognized by scholars as discredited and has been called a tribute to historical inaccuracy and know-nothing religious bigotry with shoddy scholarship, blatant dishonesty and a nonsensical thesis. Although scholarship has shown the picture presented by Hislop to be absurd and based on an exceedingly poor understanding of historical Babylon and its religion, his book remains popular among some fundamentalist protestant Christians.

Over time, some who once embraced the Hislop theory that modern Christianity is a pseudo-pagan creation by early Catholicism, have recanted their support.  A great example of this is Ralph Woodrow.  He once supported the findings of Hislop, going so far as to write his own book titled Babylon Mystery Religion.  Woodrow has since pulled this book out of print due to what he later recognized as falsehood and misinformation as taught by Hislop.  In an explanation for why he has since recanted his stance on his previous pagan roots beliefs, Woodrow says the following:

What may seem to have a connection, upon further investigation, has no connection at all!….

By this method, atheists have long sought to discredit the Bible and Christianity altogether—not just the Roman Catholic Church.

By this method, one could condemn Protestant and evangelical denominations like the Assemblies of God, Baptist, Church of Christ, Lutheran, Methodist, Nazarene, etc. Basic things like prayer, and kneeling in prayer, would have to be rejected, because pagans knelt and prayed to their gods. Water baptism would have to be rejected, for pagans had numerous rites involving water, etc.

By this method, the BIBLE itself would need to be rejected as pagan. All of the following practices or beliefs mentioned in the Bible, were also known among pagans—raising hands in worship, taking off shoes on holy ground, a holy mountain, a holy place in a temple, offering sacrifices without blemish, a sacred ark, city of refuge, bringing forth water from a rock, laws written on stone, fire appearing on a person’s head, horses of fire, the offering of first fruits, tithes, etc.

By this method, the LORD himself would be pagan. The woman called Mystery Babylon had a cup in her hand; the Lord has a cup in his hand (Psa. 75:8). Pagan kings sat on thrones and wore crowns; the Lord sits on a throne and wears a crown (Rev. 1:4; 14:14). Pagans worshipped the sun; the Lord is the “Sun of righteousness” (Mal. 4:2). Pagan gods were likened to stars; the Lord is called “the bright and morning star” (Rev. 22:16). Pagan gods had temples dedicated to them; the Lord has a temple (Rev. 7:15). Pagan gods were pictured with wings; the Lord is pictured with wings (Psa. 91:4).

Here is a list of the some of the unsubstantiated claims that are made about the religion of ancient Babylon:

• The Babylonians went to a confessional and confessed sins to priests who wore black clergy garments.

• Their king, Nimrod, was born on December 25. Round decorations on Christmas trees and round communion wafers honored him as the Sun-god.

• Sun-worshippers went to their temples weekly, on Sunday, to worship the Sun-god.

• Nimrod’s wife was Semiramis, who claimed to be the Virgin Queen of Heaven, and was the mother of Tammuz.

• Tammuz was killed by a wild boar when he was age 40; so 40 days of Lent were set aside to honor his death.

• The Babylonians wept for him on “Good Friday.” They worshipped a cross-the initial letter of his name.

It is amazing how unsubstantiated teachings like these circulate—and are believed. One can go to any library, check any history book about ancient Babylon, none of these things will be found. They are not historically accurate, but are based on an arbitrary piecing together of bits and pieces of mythology.

The “connections” drawn about the paganization of Christianity and Christmas are numerous and in most cases, they are false. There are so many resources available that refute claims about Osiris, Horus, Mithras, and other sun gods having been born/celebrated on December 25th.  Scholars both Christian and secular predominately conclude that there are no original sources that point to this date as the universal birth date of pretty much every pagan god of antiquity, which is what most pagan rooters would have you believe.

However, it is not uncommon to see proponents of the pagan roots lie telling you to simply “Google it” for more information. Why? Because the pervasiveness of the pagan roots lie as promoted by Hislop has become so popular, that the search results pretty much bury the actual scholarly research on the matter.  So yes, if you Google, “Pagan Christmas” or “Nimrod Christmas” or “Jesus was Osiris”… you’ll find lots of material that will try to sway you.  But that is not how research works. An abundance of claims does not make a fact, particularly when the majority of those claims can be traced back to a single erroneous source.  [2] [3] [4]

One of the most prominent researchers who is actively promoting the pagan roots concept is Rob Skiba.  Normally, I’d shy away from naming names and stick to refuting the message, but in this case I need to directly quote Mr. Skiba, therefore in order to properly attribute the quote, I have to name the source.

In recent weeks, Mr. Skiba has been releasing a series of anti-Christmas commentary via his Facebook wall.  In one of his most recent posts, he titles his piece “Celebrating Christ the King?”  (I’m not certain that you can access this write up unless you are friends with Rob Skiba, but here is the link, just in case.  It is too long for me to repost entirely here.) The piece begins with a tale of how the Skibas recently attended a baptism at a mainstream protestant church, wherein the Christmas decor and hymns etc made his “spirit grieve exceedingly.”

He goes on to associate December 25 with Nimrod (a notion introduced by Hislop).  He states, “It is NO SECRET that December 25th is the birthday of the sun-gods, which trace back to Nimrod.”  Right off the bat, this claim can be refuted, which essentially throws the rest of his write up into the realm of misinformation. [5][6]

King of kings, and Lord of lords…

Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; ~ 1 Timothy 6:15 King James Version (KJV)

 which he will make known in his own time, the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of those who reign as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, ~ 1 Timothy 6:15 Lexham English Bible (LEB)

The question mark in the title of Rob Skiba’s post seems to revolve around the following contention:

December 25th is the birthday of the sun-gods, which trace back to Nimrod, who was the first KING in our Bible. Interestingly enough, as he would later be known by many (possibly even 70) different names as a result of the confusion of tongues at the Tower of Babel, one of them being Osiris, he also became known as the “king of kings and lord of lords” (in the Egyptian Book of the Dead). Suddenly all of the songs and praise concerning the “king of kings” born on Christmas day took on significantly dark meaning. Now, I KNOW no one there was worshiping Nimrod. Their hearts were toward Yeshua (Jesus) the Christ. I get that.

Since we know that there is little to no reliable evidence linking these “sun gods” to December 25th, it is difficult to put much credence into the rest of Skiba’s piece, since it all hinges on that thoroughly debunked claim.  Skiba’s purpose here is to float the idea that if you celebrate the birth of Christ the King on December 25th, that you are actually worshiping and paying tribute to a different “christ” and a pagan “king”.  The entire concept of accidental paganism is outrageous.

Various scripture refers to other earthly kings as “king of kings” (Ezra 7:12; Ezekiel 26:7; Daniel 2:37), and the title was not uncommon.  What is obvious is that when the Bible refers to Jesus as King of kings, Lord of lords, it is taking that familiar title and attributing it once and for all to THE King above all kings and THE Lord above all who would identify as lords.  I find Mr. Skiba’s pointing to the Hymn to Osiris from the Egyptian Book of the Dead to be pure sensationalism, because knowing that this title is used to indicate someone who has the power to exercise absolute dominion over all that lies within his realm [7], his inclusion of the pagan parallel here serves no purpose, unless he is loosely trying to tie Jesus to the Pagan Roots Lie, which I cannot imagine would be fruitful for any follower of Jesus to do.

I reached out to Dr. Mike Heiser regarding the question of this title being bestowed upon other kings of antiquity.  In his response, he stated:

The titling in Greek = “king of kings”.

It was a *widely* used title; the title is part of the conception of utmost authority and pre-eminence. If Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world, and the greatest kingdom (Daniel = the kingdom not made with human hands), this is about as normal and expected a way to telegraph the message that there is.

Dr. Heiser cites Remarks on the History of a Title by Author J. Gwyn Griffiths from the book Classical Philology, as a point of reference for his commentary.

*Update* Dr, Heiser briefly weighed in on the issue on his blog The Naked Bible.  See post here:  What is it with the Hebrew Roots Movement?

But that doesn’t stop Skiba from stating:

Now bear in mind that the Beast is referred to as a “christ” as well (albeit an “anti” christ – meaning an antithesis of the Christ). The Beast is a false messiah – a false anointed one – a false king – who is opposed to the true Messiah, the true Anointed One, the true King.

So, here’s the problem: Our true “Messiah/Christ” was NOT born on December 25th. So, exactly which “Christ the king” are we celebrating then on that day? The answer is simple: the ANTICHRIST!

Defending Christ the King

This claim is simply preposterous.  I could belabor the point of how the pagan connections lie has been debunked over and over and over and over again (see linked sources to see how ridiculous these claims are) but for those content with parroting historically inaccurate information, these words will fall on deaf ears, and the evidence will be ignored.

As a means of punctuating the point, Dr. Heiser sums up the ridiculousness of the pagan roots lie by pointing out, “Baal was called “rider on the clouds” before Yahweh was”.  So if we follow the logic train of the pagan roots proponents, the only conclusion would be that Yahweh is just a fabrication of Baal.  Of course, we know this isn’t the case, but in keeping with the reasoning of Skiba et al, what other conclusion is there?  Do you see how dangerous this is?

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: ~ Colossians 2:16

For those of you who choose to celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th, do not allow yourself to be bullied by those who would tell you that you may accidentally be worshiping a false deity or the anti-christ on this day.  Do not let a man judge your heart, your intent, or your faithfulness to He who IS the King of kings and Lord of lords!

Do not be misled by those who would say that it is a sin to be reverent about the miraculous birth of Jesus.  For if He was not born, He could not die.  And if He did not die, He could not Rise! And if He did not first come, He could not come again! All of this is part of the amazing true story of our Savior and King.  Jesus is Lord.  JESUS. Not Osiris, or Mithras, or Horus, or Nimrod.  JESUS CHRIST IS THE KING OF KINGS, LORD OF LORDS.  If you worship Him and revere Him and fear Him and love Him who was and is and is to come, let no man tell you that you’re mistakenly worshiping someone else because of a date on a calendar.  To deter any man or woman from exercising their freedom in Christ to worship Him on any day and all days IS the spirit of antichrist, and I rebuke that spirit in Jesus’ name.

Further Reading/Sources:

Remarks on the History of a Title by Author J. Gwyn Griffiths from the book Classical Philology, Vol. 48, No. 3 (Jul., 1953), pp. 145-154

Zeitgeist, History Rewritten

Exo-politics and Apologetics with Cris Putnam

Does Jeremiah 10 Condemn Christmas Trees?

Christmas Trees Are Not Pagan!

Message from Ralph Woodrow regarding the book BABYLON MYSTERY RELIGION

[1] http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/epidsode-ten-trinity-debate/

[2] https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphianinfo/articles/apologetics/dbhislop#TOC-Don-t-Believe-Everything-You-Read

[3] http://www.equip.org/articles/the-two-babylons/

[4] http://christianthinktank.com/copycat.html

[5] http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html

[6] http://thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html

[7] http://www.gotquestions.org/King-of-kings-Lord-of-lords.html

Defending Christ the King – Refuting the Pagan Roots Lie

 


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  1. Michael Clinton

    Amazing research. Thank you.

  2. Interesting how so many of these claims are rooted in Hislop and Zeitgeist. Heiser’s excellent example of how the Hebrews took attributable of Baal and reassigned them to Yahweh is instructive. It reminds me of when Paul looked at an unknown pagan god and told the audience it was Jesus! Merry Christmas!

  3. Amanda

    When was our savior born?

    When the child was born “there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night” (Luke 2:8).

    This never could have occurred in the month of December. The shepherds always brought their flocks from the mountainsides and fields and corralled them not later than October 15, to protect them from the cold, rainy season that followed that date.

    Notice that the Bible itself proves in Song of Solomon 2:11, and Ezra 10:9, and 13, that winter was a rainy season not permitting shepherds to abide in open fields at night.

    It was an ancient custom among Jews of those days to send out their sheep to the fields and deserts about the Passover (early spring), and bring them home at commencement of the first rain, says the Adam Clarke Commentary, Vol. 5, page 386 (and 370).

    Continuing, this authority states: “during the time they were out, the shepherds watched them night and day. As the first rain began early in the month of Marchesvan, which answers to part of our October and November [begins mid-October], we find that the sheep were kept out in the open country during the whole summer. And, as these shepherds had not yet brought home their flocks, it is a presumptive argument that October had not yet commenced, and that, consequently, our Lord was not born on the 25th of December, when no flocks were out in the fields; nor could He have been born later than September, as the flocks were still in the fields by night. On this very ground, the nativity in December should be given up. The feeding of the flocks by night in the fields is a chronological fact.”

    Any encyclopedia, or any other authority, will tell you that Christ was not born on December 25.

    The Catholic Encyclopedia frankly states this fact.
    The exact date is entirely UNKNOWN, as all authorities acknowledge — though there is scripture which strongly indicates that it was in the early fall — probably September — approximately six months after Passover.
    If God had wished us to observe and celebrate Christ’s birthday, He would not have so completely hidden the exact date.

    What Encyclopedias Say

    There is not one word in the New Testament, or anywhere in the Bible, telling us to observe Christmas.
    The Christians of the first century, under the inspired teachings of Peter and Paul and the other apostles, never observed it.
    There is NO BIBLE AUTHORITY for its observance, strange as it may seem.

    Then where did we get “Christmas”?

    Since it has come to us through the Roman Catholic Church, and has no authority but that of the Roman Catholic Church, let us examine the Catholic Encyclopedia, published by that Church.
    Under the caption “Christmas,” you will find:
    “Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. The first evidence of the feast is from Egypt. Pagan customs centering around the January calends gravitated to Christmas.”
    And, further, we find this truth acknowledged: “. in the Scripture, sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday.

    Encyclopedia Britannica has this:

    “Christmas (i.e., the Mass of Christ). Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the church.” It was not instituted by Christ or the apostles, or by Bible authority — it was picked up afterward from paganism.

    The Encyclopedia Americana says:

    “CHRISTMAS. It was, according to many authorities, not celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church, as the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth.”

    “The word “Mass” is derived from Latin, it means to “Dismiss”
    [as in "a funeral mass"] – the word “Merry” means “Happy”
    Therefore, “Merry Christmas” Actually Means “Happy Dismissal of CHRIST”

    How This Pagan Custom Got Into The Church

    These recognized historic authorities show Christmas was NOT observed by Christians for the first two or three hundred years — a period longer than the entire history of the United States as a nation.

    It got into the Western, or Roman Church, by the FOURTH century A.D.
    It was not until the FIFTH century that the Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as an official “Christian” festival.
    How did this heathen custom get accepted into Christianity?
    The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia explains it clearly, in its article on “CHRISTMAS”:
    “How much the date of the festival depended upon the Pagan Brumalia (Dec. 25) following the Saturnalia (Dec. 17-24), and celebrating the shortest day of the year and the ‘new sun’ . cannot be accurately determined. The pagan Saturnalia and Brumalia were too deeply entrenched in popular custom to be set aside by Christian influence. The pagan festival with its riot and merrymaking was so popular, that Christians were glad of an excuse to continue its celebration with little change in spirit and in manner. Christian preachers of the West and the Near East protested against the unseemly frivolity with which Christ’s birthday was celebrated, while Christians of Mesopotamia accused their Western brethren of idolatry and sun-worship for adopting as Christian this pagan festival.”

    Remember, the Roman world had been PAGAN. Prior to the fourth century, Christians were few in number, tho increasing, and were persecuted by the government and by pagans. But, with the advent of Constantine as emperor, who made his profession of Christianity, in the fourth century, placing Christianity on an equal footing with paganism, people of the Roman world began to accept this now popular Christianity by the hundreds of thousands.

    These people had grown up in PAGAN customs, chief of which was this idolatrous festival of December 25th. It was a festival of merrymaking, with its special SPIRIT.
    Now this same article in Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia explains how the recognition by Constantine, of Sunday, which had been the day of pagan SUN-worship, and how the influence of the pagan Manichaeism, which identified the SON of God with the physical SUN, gave these pagans of the fourth century, now turning over wholesale to “Christianity,” their EXCUSE for calling their pagan-festival date of December 25th (birthday of the SUN god), the birthday of the SON of God.

    And that is how “Christmas” got into our so-called Christianity.

    The Real ORIGIN of Christmas

    But if we got Christmas from the Roman Catholics, and they got it from paganism, where did the pagans get it?
    Where, when, and what was its real origin?

    It is a chief custom of the corrupt system denounced all thru Bible prophecies and teachings under the name of BABYLON.

    And it started and originated in the original Babylon of ancient Nimrod. Yes, it stems from roots whose beginning was shortly this side of the Flood.

    Nimrod, grandson of Ham, son of Noah, was the real founder of the Babylonish system that has gripped the world ever since — the system of organized competition — of man-ruled governments and empires, based upon the competitive and profit-making economic system. Nimrod built the tower of Babel, the original Babylon, ancient Nineveh, and many other cities. He organized this world’s first kingdom. The name Nimrod, in Hebrew, is derived from “Marad,” meaning “he rebelled.” (Gen. 10:6, 8-12)
    From many ancient writings, considerable is learned of this man, who started the great organized worldly apostasy from God that has dominated this world until now.
    Nimrod was so evil, it is said he married his own mother, whose name was Semiramis. After Nimrod’s untimely death, his so-called mother-wife, Semiramis, propagated the evil doctrine of the survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth unto new life of the dead Nimrod.

    On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. December 25th, was the birthday of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree.

    Semiramis became the Babylonian “Queen of Heaven,” and Nimrod, under various names, became the “divine son of heaven.”

    Through the generations, in this idolatrous worship, Nimrod also became the false Messiah, son of Baal the Sun-god.
    In this false Babylonish system, the “Mother and Child,” (Semiramis and Nimrod reborn); became chief objects of worship.

    (All of the Mythological god (false gods and idols) information can be found in multiple resources, not just one or two books.)

    This worship of “Mother and Child”

    The names varied in different countries and languages.
    In Egypt it was Iris and Osiris. In Asia, Cybele and Deoius. In pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiterpuer. Even in Greece, China, Japan, and Tibet, the counterpart of the Madonna is to be found, long before the birth of Christ.

    Thus, during the fourth and fifth centuries, when the pagans of the Roman world were “accepting” the new popular “Christianity” by the hundreds of thousands, carrying their old pagan customs and beliefs along with them, merely cloaking them with Christian-sounding NAMES, the Madonna and “Mother and Child” idea also became popularized, especially at Christmas time.

    Every Christmas season you’ll hear sung and chanted dozens of times the hymn “Silent Night, Holy Night,” with its familiar “Mother and Child” theme.

    We, who have been born in such a Babylonish world, reared and steeped in these things all our lives, have been taught to revere these things as holy, and sacred.
    The real origin of Christmas goes back to the ancient Babylon.

    It is bound up in the organized apostasy with which Satan has gripped a deceived world.

    In Egypt, it was always believed that the son of Iris (Egyptian name for “Queen of Heaven”) was born December 25th. Paganism celebrated this famous birthday over most of the known world for centuries before the birth of Christ.

    December 25th, is NOT the birthday of Yeshua, our savior.
    The apostles and early true Church never celebrated Christ’s birthday at any time. There is no command or instruction to celebrate it in the Bible — rather, the celebrating of birthdays is a HEATHEN, not a Christian custom.

    Nowhere does the Bible tell us to worship “Mother and Child.”
    The apostles and early true Christians never did it! The Scriptures show an angel saying to Mary, “Hail, thou art highly favored, the Lord is with thee” — the addition “blessed art thou among women,” is omitted in the best original manuscripts (in Greek). Elizabeth said to Mary, “Blessed art thou among women.” And Mary herself said, “From henceforth all generations shall call me blessed” (Luke 1:28, 42, 48).

    She was highly blessed by God, and this has been acknowledged by all generations from that time — but this does not mean she is to be deified, worshiped, made a divine being, when she was merely human.
    The widespread worship of Mary, as “the Mother of God,” the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, which refers to her as a counterfeit mediatrix between man and God, is a continuation of this ancient Babylonian idolatry, begun by the clever deceptions of Semiramis, wife of Nimrod.
    The ancient idolatrous “Chaldean Mysteries,” founded by this wife of Nimrod, have been handed down thru the pagan religions into the Catholic Church under new Christian-sounding names, and from there into the Protestant denominations and on to all of us today.

    John 1:17
    For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    the law – the torah – the commandments

    It does not say He came to abolish them but rather to bring GRACE so that we may learn to live the law as He did and intends us to. He came and added to and completed what Moses and the other prophets preached.

    Mark 7:8
    For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men

    You can call a goat a sheep, but it is still a goat.

    • Did you read the article, Amanda? Your historical sources have been debunked. The whole Nimrod/Semiramis thing isn’t based on history. Your use of scripture is wanting. Do you really think Jesus died on the cross so you couldn’t join a cultural tradition to honor his birth? Try reading the article and actual historical sources, and enjoy the freedom Jesus purchased for you.

      • Sam

        Doug Overmyer,
        “Do you really think Jesus died on the cross so you couldn’t join a cultural tradition to honor his birth?”

        Well, Doug, he sure didn’t. Good that you recognize christmas as a “cultural tradition”. Question is, whose culture? Who started it? Certainly not the Christ. Nor his Apostles, nor Paul.
        Actually Jesus died on the cross so you and I could be born again, so that we COULDN’T do a LOT OF THINGS that we did before.
        Check out what the Good Book has to say about “cultural traditions”:

        “Do not do the things of the land of Egypt, where you once dwelt: and don’t do the things of the land of Canaan, where I am taking you.” – GOD, Leviticus 18:3″

  4. Did Jesus teach it?
    Did Jesus practice it?
    Did the apostles teach it?
    Did the apostles practice it?

    This is the filter. Anything less or more builds Babylon (confusion).

    • Sam

      Lemuel Cherloaba, You have used the only GOD-breathed, perfect filter for all that we believe or practice in Jesus Name.
      Whether or not christmas has pagan or RC roots is actually a moot point (though it would be foolishly myopic to dismiss it all as “bunk”).
      But what did the genuine Jesus (the one found in the Bible) say about remembering his birth? It is very telling, that he NEVER once highlighted his humble birth in a stable. The very fact that the Bible is SILENT about the actual date of his birth should be the “green card” for those “celebrating” the birth of Jesus. The fact the the Bible has no record of ANYONE celebrating his birth is the “yellow card”. The fact that Jesus chose, NOT his birth, but the repeated recollection of his torn and bleeding body as the ONLY mode of remembering him, should be the final “red-card” for those hell-bent on choosing their own celebrate his birth. I mean “hell-bent” literally, because those who justify celebrating the BIRTH (on whatever date) merely display the same attitude of Cain, who thought “why not bring my vege stuff, after all I am sacrificing to GOD?”
      The glorious Creator of the universe (with legions of angels at his beck and call), being transformed into a helpless, speechless, baby in a animal feedbox in a filthy stable, is a humbling of infinite proportion. To celebrate THAT kind of birth is at best, the pinnacle of religious stupidity and at worst, the very road to hell.
      If one is genuinely BORN-AGAIN, one would be VERY careful to put on the mind of Christ and walk in his footsteps, instead of beating one’s OWN self-chosen path in his Name.
      http://vildness.blogspot.com/2012/12/oh-no-its-christmas-again.html#more

  5. Chuckles

    Um I don’t mean to dispute your basic premise about the pagan roots lie, Natalina, but I do wish to alert you to the fact that your #2 linked footnote (in your main article above) links to a Christadelphian site. The Christadelphians are an anti-Trinitarian group with Unitarian tendencies; very unbiblical. You might want to do some research on them, if you haven’t already. You may then wish to remove the link. At least, I hope so.

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